alfredo caronia Jul 18, 2013
> Hi Bill ![Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> and Bernd and all
>
> Good day!
>
> The IMO is certainly more authoritative as a source, but despite this I
> have noticed discrepancies between the abbreviations of the meteor showers
> listed by the IAU and abbreviations, taken by the IMO, shown in Guide 9!
>
>
> I mention below the example cited in a previous email:
>
> Data taken from IAU:
>
>
> 00153 OCE South. Dayt. omega Cetids<http://www.astro.amu.edu.pl/%7Ejopek/MDC2007/Roje/pojedynczy_obiekt.php?kodstrumienia=00153&colecimy=0&kodmin=00001&kodmax=00540&sortowanie=0>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Data from Guide 9
>
> when I type " OCE " , Guide 9 gives this result: " *Radiant** of Meteor
> Shower
> Omikron-Centaurids IMO (International Meteor Organization) acronym: OCE*".
>
>
> This data is source of confusion!
>
> In addition, the calendar of meteor showers IMO, 2013 - Table 5 - (is
> also published the calendar of meteor showers IMO, 2014) refers only to
> visual meteors with a shorter list compared to that of Guide 9!
>
>
> I hope that the the initiative of Bernd Brinkmann (whom I greet and thank
> you for your advice given to me) to make a proposal to Sirko Molau, allows
> to obtain valid data updated!
>
>
> The most authoritative source to refer to, I think is the IAU Meteor Data
> Center.
>
> In my opinion, the most complete data, the most current data and more
> compatible with the format of Guide 9, are available from the IAU Meteor Data
> Center!
>
> Thank you, Regards!
>
> Alfredo Caronia
>
> Il giorno 16/lug/2013 05:42, "Bill Gray" <pluto@...> ha
> scritto:
>
>> Hi Alfredo, Bernd, all,
>>
>> Hmmm... the last version of the meteor file I have dates back to 1998.
>> Bernd, I think you're seeing 2011 Nov 30 because that's the date the file
>> was copied to your hard drive; if you look at the meteors.dat file in the
>> 'text' file of the Guide 9 DVD, it should have a file date of 1998 Sep
>> 28.
>>
>> A bit of Web searching turned up this "current" list :
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_meteor_showers
>>
>> However, I'm a little reluctant to use Wikipedia as a primary source.
>>
>> http://imo.net/files/data/calendar/cal2013.pdf
>>
>> is considerably better, but not really formatted for our purposes.
>> I'm
>> wondering if anyone has put together a more modern version of the
>> 'meteors.dat'
>> file (it need not be in the identical format), and would be willing to
>> send
>> it to me for posting?
>>
>> Thanks! -- Bill
>>
>> On 07/08/2013 04:04 PM, alfredo caronia wrote:
>> > Hello Bernd!
>> >
>> > I need your help again please!
>> >
>> > In reference to the last two lines of your email:
>> >
>> > "*Mine is dating from Nov. 30th 2011. Know any meteor stream Discovered
>> > afterwards
>> > can not be included.
>> >
>> > But I think you can edit this file with a simple text editor (not Word)
>> > after
>> > making a copy of it. This can be done with many other ASCII files of
>> Guide.
>> >
>> > So when you finish you can have the date include them into this file or
>> > correct the
>> > existing ones.* "
>> >
>> >
>> > could you explain:
>> >
>> > - where you can find data files to the format compatible with Guide 9?
>> >
>> > - with reference to which authority?
>> >
>> > - and clicking on which link you can find exactly the data you want
>> > to edit and
>> > update?
>> >
>> > I hope I have asked the question in an understandable way!
>> >
>> > Thank you in advance!
>> >
>> > Greetings!
>> >
>> > Alfredo Caronia
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/7/8 Bernd Brinkmann <bernd.brinkmann@...>
>> >
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hello Alfredo,
>> >>
>> >> the information you are seeing / searching for are in an ASCII file
>> called
>> >> "meteor.dat" in the Guide 9 subfolder "text".
>> >>
>> >> Mine is dating from Nov. 30th 2011. So any meteor stream discovered
>> >> afterwards
>> >> can't be included.
>> >>
>> >> But I think you can edit this file with a simple text editor (not Word)
>> >> after
>> >> making a copy of it. This can be done with many other ASCII files of
>> Guide.
>> >>
>> >> So when you have the data you can include them into this file or
>> correct
>> >> the
>> >> existing ones. The content of the columns are described at the very
>> end of
>> >> the
>> >> file. A more detailed explanation of the content of "meteor.dat" (also
>> >> what is
>> >> shown using "more info") is given at the end of the file
>> "cd_data_2.tdf"
>> >> in the
>> >> section "file !:\text\meteor.dat".
>> >>
>> >> I hope this information is useful for you.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I verified, by searching by Guide 9 with the command "Go to
>> TDF.Object -
>> >>> Meteor Showers IMO", that are not included various meteor showers
>> >>> taken from the list IMO used as reference in Guide 9!
>> >>>
>> >>> Examples:
>> >>>
>> >>> *Northern Daytime omega Cetids (NOC) - Results: Object Not Found.*
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Same results ( object not found) for the following meteor shower:
>> >>>
>> >>> *- The shower Eta Lyrids (ELY)**
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> - April rho Cygnids (ARC),
>> >>>
>> >>> - Comet Halley Age Aquariids (EAQ),
>> >>>
>> >>> - The annual Northern June Aquilids (NZC)*
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> and so on .
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, if I try to find, with the command "Go to TDF.Object - IMO
>> Meteor
>> >>> Showers",
>> >>> the meteor indicated by the following name:
>> >>>
>> >>> *Southern Daytime omega Cetids (OCE) *
>> >>> *
>> >>> when I type " OCE " , Guide 9 gives this result: " *Radiant** of
>> Meteor
>> >>> Shower
>> >>> Hello Bill, and all!
>> (International Meteor Organization) acronym: OCE*
>> >> ".
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> What are the reasons for this?
>> >>>
>> >>> However, I suggest finding the ability to make these data upgradeable
>> >> regard
>> >>> to the periodic updates of the list of meteor showers that is to be
>> >>> accordingly amended or supplemented!
>> >>>
>> >>> Note: Links used by the undersigned:
>> >>>
>> >>> * http://cams.seti.org/maps.html
>> >>> * http://www.arm.ac.uk/~dja/shower/codes.html
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards!
>> >>>
>> >>> Alfredo Caronia
>> >>
>> >> Clear skies
>> >> Bernd
>> >>
>> >> Bernd Brinkmann
>> >>
>> >> Sternwarte Herne, MPC code A18
>> >> Herne, Germany
>> >>
>> >> e-mail: info@...
>> >> http://www.sternwarte-herne.de
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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