Hi Bill,

My problem is that Windows is not installed on the laptop that runs
Scope and Guide, so I just copied everything as you suggested. I now
find that Dosguide will start up fine with a completely blank CD in
the drive, but not with an empty CD drive. Is there a config file
somewhere that needs telling everything is on the hard drive ?

I found Ctrl-F4 after some trial and error. The scrolling now works
fine with the cursor keys, but the jumps are rather large. In pointer
mode, the Ctrl button slows the motion down nicely. Is there a way of
slowing down the scrolling ?

I'm really chuffed with the Scope-Guide link. It works well. I
configured Guide as you suggested, and Scope just needs a Guide.bat
file to start the program. Just press the Hotkey (G) and Guide starts
up. Select an object in Guide, hit Hotkeys F and X to return to
Scope, hit Hotkey 1 and the scope slews to the new object. Great ! My
only quibble is that Scope doesn't seem to know the name of the
object - it just says "From Guide".

Anyway, these are early days - I expect there are lots of new tricks
to discover.

Thanks for your help.

Paul

--- In guide-user@yahoogroups.com, Bill J Gray <pluto@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> There are definitely some oddities in the DOS version. As
> you might expect, there hasn't been much demand for it for
> some years now... _except_ amongst users of Mel Bartels'
> SCOPE.EXE system. (That would probably have moved to Windows,
> too, but it essentially requires a real-time operating system,
> and DOS is close enough to serve.)
>
> Re installing to the hard drive: easiest way is to fire up
> the Windows software and use its Install to Hard Drive feature.
> When you've done that, the DOS version will also switch over
> to using the hard drive files.
>
> You can do it by hand, though, using the xcopy command.
> Change to the folder where Guide is installed, say, c:\guide.
> Then use the command
>
> xcopy d: /s
>
> (where for 'd:' you should use the drive letter of the CD-ROM.)
>
> The reason you need to use xcopy is that it will preserve the
> folder structure. The file d:\text\bitfont, for example, will
> be copied to c:\guide\text\bitfont. It sounds as if you may
> have just copied everything into the c:\guide directory?
>
> Re changing cursor keys: in DOS Guide, hitting Ctrl-F4 toggles
> between 'cursor keys move the cursor' and 'cursor keys pan the
> screen, as in Window Guide.'
>
> More generally: Windows Guide has a nice dialog for changing
> hotkeys, and DOS Guide doesn't. The way to change hotkeys in
> DOS Guide is described at
>
> http://www.projectpluto.com/hotkeys.htm
>
> It won't help you with cursor keys, though; those are defined
> internally, and you have to use the Ctrl-F4 trick to get at them.
>
> Now, regarding setup of Guide and Scope on the same machine:
> I think Scope completely ignores the COM port and similar settings
> in Guide. It just knows that the RA/dec gets passed to it (or
> vice versa). I'm not entirely current on how things are set up
> in Scope. In DOS Guide, all you should have to do is tell it
> (in Settings... Scope Control) that you're using an 'AltAz'
> system.
>
> (However, I've just tried this on the most recent DOS Guide,
> and it's giving me a scope type of 'Not a valid object'. I will
> investigate.)
>
> -- Bill
>