Re: Comet 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann

nicolaslefau2 Apr 3, 2006

just to make the things more complicated:

fragment_B appears to be currently in outburst and probably
disrupting in smaller fragments that might be observed in the days
ahead.

moreover, MPEC 2006-G10 reports 5 news fragments: u, v, w, x, and y
between mag 19 and 21, which means that 18 fragments have now been
observed.

I think the 73P fragments elements problem is going to be a real
mess...

Nicolas Lefaudeux




--- In guide-user@yahoogroups.com, "nicolaslefau2"
<nicolaslefau2@...> wrote:
>
> comet 73P doesn't exist anymore. so its elements are not true
> anymore. the ones you found could be the ones of 1995, when the
> comet broke.
>
> in 1995, several fragments (A to ?) had been observed, C was the
> main component.
> in 2001, only three components were found again, B, C, and E
>
> in 2006, thirteen components have been found. E was not recovered.
> elements for E could be the ones for 2001 or the ones assumed for
> 2006, but this fragment has vanished (or its linking between one
of
> the recovered fragments hasn't been made)
>
> in conclusion, 73P doesn't exist anymore, but it can be identified
> with the main fragment, C. elements of 73P should be the ones of
> 73P_C.
>
> E has vanished, so you don't have to spend time trying to figure
out
> its current magnitude or its elements.
>
> the elements you found with B,C and E are likely the ones that
were
> assumed for the 2006 return with the calculations made with 2001
> datas. they are not useful anymore.
>
> sincerely
>
> Nicolas Lefaudeux
>
>
>
>
>
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> --- In guide-user@yahoogroups.com, "John Sheff" <jsheff@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking into it, but surely the magnitude of 39.9 for the
> magnitude of
> > Component E is in error. No conceivable instrument could detect
> something
> > that faint.
> >
> > John Sheff
> > Cambridge, MA
> > john@
> >
> > _____
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> > Behalf Of tk11@
> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:33 PM
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> > Subject: [guide-user] Comet 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann
> >
> > Guide Users,
> > I found and downloaded the file
> > comet 73P elements in 2006.txt (not 73Pfragments,txt).
> > It consists of 3 sets of elements:
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 B
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 C
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 E
> > I also located
> > 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann
> > At http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/Ephemerides/
> > comets/0073P.html.
> > The Guide database also includes
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 (73P).
> > In Guide on 2006 April 1.0, these 5 sets
> > plot separately, along a 14-degree SE-NW arc in Bootes.
> > (P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 1 (29P) and
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 2 (31P) from the Guide database
> > are different comets in different parts of the sky.)
> > The magnitudes are
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 B - 12.7
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 C - 7.6
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 E - 39.9
> > 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann at - 10.2 *
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 (73P) - 10.1
> > * after setting H = 11.0 according to recent magnitude estimates
> for the
> > brightest component, C.
> > I had supposed that 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann was component
C,
> but it
> > plots differently from
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 C. Are they the same (with older
> elements for
> > P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 C), or is 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann a
> different
> > fragment (perhaps A)?
> > Can someone straighten this out?
> > Truman
> >
> > Truman P. Kohman, Departments of Chemistry and Physics
> > Carnegie-Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA 15213 USA
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