Re: [guide-user] eclipse timing

Beno=c3=aet_Minster Aug 23, 2017

Some answers available in the Guide Glossary, at the Delta-T entry :

 Delta-T is the difference between Dynamical Time (TD),
the uniform time system based on atomic clocks,  and Universal
Time (UT),  the slightly irregular system based on the earth's
rotation.  It is widely used in astronomical formulae.

   Guide uses observed values of Delta-T for dates from 1620 to
the present,  and a formula to approximate values before 1620.
(Our knowledge of the earth's rotation,  and hence of UT,  is
limited for medieval and ancient dates.)  For dates in the
future,  it uses a separate formula that makes some assumptions
about how the rotational speed will vary.  It shows the value
used for Delta-T in the Quick Info section.


Benoît

On 08/23/2017 11:01 PM, bob bob@bobsbits.net [guide-user] wrote:
How does guide compensate for leap seconds?
We do need to know the leap seconds elapsed to convert from T1 to UTC. Yes?
I have not updated guide in years(15 yrs?). So how do I input leap seconds in guide?


On 8/23/2017 4:07 PM, Luc Desamore luc_desamore@yahoo.ca [guide-user] wrote:
 

It could have something to do with  limb effect (real vs mean limb)

Luc

From occult 4.3.2.0 : (with limb effect)

S O L A R     E C L I P S E     P R E D I C T I O N   for 2017 Aug 21
                   
 East Longitude - 88  6.00
       Latitude   37  4.10
       Altitude  0 m.

         TT-UTC  69.2 secs    Prediction basis: DE430
        UT1-UTC  0.2 secs    ▲T [= TT-UT1]  68.9 secs

Event               UTC       P.A.   alt.      Differential Corrections
                  h  m  s       o      o          A       B       C
First Contact    16 55  6     293     61         2.10   -0.59   -0.03
Baily beads @2nd 18 23  1 
Second Contact   18 23  9.5   120.9      
Maximum Eclipse  18 24 30             64         2.06   -1.25   -0.01
Third Contact    18 25 49.3   293.4      
Baily beads @3rd 18 25 56 
Last Contact     19 50 23     114     54         1.62   -1.68    0.01
 [2nd and 3rd contacts are based on the lunar limb derived from LRO LOLA]

Magnitude at Maximum Eclipse 1.013
Magnitude (diameter ratio)   1.031

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without limb effect :

S O L A R     E C L I P S E     P R E D I C T I O N   for 2017 Aug 21
                   
 East Longitude - 88  6.00
       Latitude   37  4.10
       Altitude  0 m.

         TT-UTC  69.2 secs    Prediction basis: DE430
        UT1-UTC  0.2 secs    ▲T [= TT-UT1]  68.9 secs

Event               UTC       P.A.   alt.      Differential Corrections
                  h  m  s       o      o          A       B       C
First Contact    16 55  6     293     61         2.10   -0.59   -0.03
Second Contact   18 23 11     122      
Maximum Eclipse  18 24 30             64         2.06   -1.25   -0.01
Third Contact    18 25 50     286      
Last Contact     19 50 23     114     54         1.62   -1.68    0.01

Magnitude at Maximum Eclipse 1.013
Magnitude (diameter ratio)   1.031




On 2017-08-23 20:40, bob davis bob@bobsbits.net [guide-user] wrote:
So I am chasing down an anomaly of the timing...

I was at
        37.06769 -88.10091
which is down to a 1.112 meter

Nasa google maps showed totality begging at.


and guide8.0 showed the following:


I timed it at:
13:23:08

I wonder if it has something to do with leap seconds?



-- 
Bob Davis
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Exeter NH 03833
603-778-0781



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bob davis
9 Meadow Lane
Exeter NH 03833
603-778-0781