tom Nov 13, 2016
On 11/13/2016 4:11 PM, 'Blair, Grant' g.blair@... [guide-user] wrote:
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> Yes, Tom.
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> My understanding is that, with the Dataset display set to “on” (as
> opposed to off, or auto, or fixed), it will always display.
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> I did **try** the others, like Fixed and Auto, with a setting of 20, but
> nothing changed.
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> I’m about at the point where I’m going to set up a whole new blank
> (Guide) directory, install Guide 9, then see if I can see UCAC4, then
> update to Guide 9.1 and see if I can see it.
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> I repeat – using Goto Object….. Guide **knows** the stars exist and
> where in the sky they are. They just don’t show up for me.
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> Cheers,
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> Grant
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> *From:*guide-user@yahoogroups.com [mailto:guide-user@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 13, 2016 2:33 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [guide-user] RE: UCAC4 (again)
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> I'm sure this is not an issue but I assume the magnitude setting is dim
> enough to show the object...
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> On 11/13/2016 1:40 PM, 'Blair, Grant' g.blair@...
> <mailto:g.blair@...> [guide-user] wrote:
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>> One step more……
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>> If I rename the UCAC4 file z605 to something else, then try the Goto
>> again, Guide quite clearly tells me 4U605-1592 is not an object anymore.
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>> I rename it back to z605 and now the Goto works again (but does not
>> display anything at that location).
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>> Grant
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>> *To:* guide-user@yahoogroups.com <mailto:guide-user@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Subject:* [guide-user] RE: UCAC4 (again)
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>> Thanks for the input, Bill (& Roger). I am still quite perplexed.
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>> Guide (9.1) is obviously picking up data from *somewhere*.
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>> My “Toggle User Datasets” looks like (only UCAC-4 enabled):
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>> [cid:image001.png@...85E0]
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>> Clicking on Adjust Dataset shows (“on”, “Label” checked, Show at 0-1.5):
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>> [cid:image002.png@...85E0]
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>> The UCAC4_PATH entry in GUIDE.DAT is (UCAC4_PATH=d:\ucac4 followed by a
>> linefeed character, like every other line)
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>> [cid:image004.png@01D23DB1.E69EFAD0]
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>> I’m sitting at level 10 (15 minutes) and execute Go To… Object Name and
>> enter “4U605-1592” and click OK.
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>> This takes me to an ‘empty’ patch of sky at approx. RA 00:23:29, Dec
>> +30:58:43, which sounds totally reasonable for band 605 of the UCAC4 data.
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>> But it’s literally ‘empty’ on my display. I right-click on the spot and
>> Guide’s best suggestion for identification is “Border” with no
>> additional info.
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>> So we’re left with the interesting situation where Guide *knows* the
>> name and corresponding location, but is not readily displaying anything
>> at that spot.
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>> In approximately 20 years of Guide/Charon/FindOrb usage, I have never
>> come across such an issue before.
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>> History: to get to this point, I started with a fresh installation from
>> the Guide 9.0 CD and added patches over the years to get to 9.1 now.
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>> Roger emailed me the relevant files from his (now working) setup. I’m
>> going to trawl through the relevant lines in there and see if there is
>> some subtle difference which has so far eluded me.
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>> Cheers!
>> Grant
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>> Subject: Re: [guide-user] RE: UCAC4 (again)
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>> Hi Grant,
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>> The fact that Go To... Object... 4U314-15926 works suggests that you're
>> on the right road. (I should remember to suggest trying that. But I
> didn't,
>> and can't, think of a case where you could get Go To to work, but not
>> display.)
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>> To double-check: under Extras... Toggle User-Added Datasets, you've
>> selected UCAC4 (_not_ "UCAC4 downloaded from VizieR"), turned 'on', with
>> the 'label' box checked, and 'show at' set from 0 to 1 degree?
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>> What happens if you right-click on that star? Do you get UCAC4 data
>> or UCAC3 data?
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>> -- Bill
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>> On 2016-11-11 20:42, 'Blair, Grant'
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>> <mailto:g.blair@...%3cmailto:g.blair@...>> [guide-user] wrote:
>>> Thanks, Tom!
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>>> Well, this is extremely interesting. Switching the UCAC4 directories
>> (and reference) over to C: made no difference, so I set it back to D:.
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>>> Still no sign of the UCAC4 stars (or labels) appearing, even at level
>> 10 (15 minutes).
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>>> HOWEVER:-
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>>> If I do a 'Goto...Object' and enter "4U314-15926" as described in
>> http://www.projectpluto.com/update9.htm#ucac4_find, then Guide does
>> indeed go to the location where that star should appear. It just doesn't
>> display it.
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>>> Ideas, anyone?
>>>
>>> Grant
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>>> Subject: Re: [guide-user] RE: UCAC4 (again)
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>>> Good luck Grant. FYI, for me the stars don't ID as 4UCxxx-xxxx until I
>>> zoom in to level 10. before that (level 9 or before) they ID as TYCO
>>> catalog stars.
>>>
>>> Tom
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>>> On 11/11/2016 7:04 PM, 'Blair, Grant'
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>> <mailto:g.blair@...%3cmailto:g.blair@...>> [guide-user] wrote:
>>>> Thanks, Tom. Same here, except I'm on D:
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>>>> I guess I'll temporarily copy the UCAC4 tree to C: and adjust the
>> UCAC4_PATH accordingly to see if it makes a difference.
>>>>
>>>> Grant
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>>>> Subject: Re: [guide-user] RE: UCAC4 (again)
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>>>> In my c:\UCAC4 directory I have a U4B subdirectory containing Z001-Z900
>>>> and a U4i subdirectory with a few index files and such. Also a
>>>> modfis.exe file (?).
>>>>
>>>> Tom
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>>>> On 11/11/2016 6:56 PM, 'Blair, Grant'
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>> <mailto:g.blair@...%3cmailto:g.blair@...>> [guide-user] wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, guys. Tried that one, still no dice.
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>>>>> Did you both ftp the files from CDSARC? Or did you get them from
>> some other source?
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>>>>> I'm wondering if the directory structure there is set up a little
>> differently from that expected by Guide...
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>>>>> Grant
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>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 5:34 PM
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>>>>> Subject: Re: [guide-user] UCAC4 (again)
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>>>>> Same here as Dr. Clay...
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>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/11/2016 4:16 PM, 'P. Clay Sherrod'
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>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> You might try changing your path command to:
>>>>>> UCAC4_PATH=d:\ucac4
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>>>>>> Works just fine in that configuration for us.
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>>>>>> *Subject:* [guide-user] UCAC4 (again)
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>>>>>> Hi All,
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>>>>>> I don't think I am a particularly inept person in general, but
>>>>>> getting Guide 9.1 (10 Dec, 2015 version) to access UCAC4 (locally on
>>>>>> the same HD as Guide) eludes me.
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>>>>>> I downloaded the entire UCAC4 tree from
>>>>>> cdsarc.u-strasbg.fr/pub/cat/I/322A/UCAC4 into D:\UCAC4 on my laptop,
>>>>>> keeping the relative directory structure.
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>>>>>> I have Guide 9.1 installed in D:\AstroData\Guide9
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>>>>>> I have the following in
>>>>>> GUIDE.DAT: UCAC4_DATA=D:\UCAC4
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>>>>>> I have UCAC-4 flagged with an asterisk in Extras-Toggle User
>>>>>> Datasets and the 'on' radio button is selected, as is display at a
>>>>>> scale of 0 - 1 degrees.
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>>>>>> I go to an area of the sky with the window displaying 30 arcmin of
>>>>>> field and the only stars visible are from Tycho (or PPM or HD).
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>>>>>> I have UCAC3 disabled, if that makes any difference (it didn't seem
>>>>>> to, for me).
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>>>>>> Where is my mistake, please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grant
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