tom Nov 13, 2016
On 11/13/2016 1:40 PM, 'Blair, Grant' g.blair@... [guide-user] wrote:
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> One step more……
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> If I rename the UCAC4 file z605 to something else, then try the Goto
> again, Guide quite clearly tells me 4U605-1592 is not an object anymore.
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> I rename it back to z605 and now the Goto works again (but does not
> display anything at that location).
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> Grant
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> *Sent:* Sunday, November 13, 2016 1:33 PM
> *To:* guide-user@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [guide-user] RE: UCAC4 (again)
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> Thanks for the input, Bill (& Roger). I am still quite perplexed.
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> Guide (9.1) is obviously picking up data from *somewhere*.
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> My “Toggle User Datasets” looks like (only UCAC-4 enabled):
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> [cid:image001.png@...85E0]
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> Clicking on Adjust Dataset shows (“on”, “Label” checked, Show at 0-1.5):
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> [cid:image002.png@...85E0]
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> The UCAC4_PATH entry in GUIDE.DAT is (UCAC4_PATH=d:\ucac4 followed by a
> linefeed character, like every other line)
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> [cid:image004.png@01D23DB1.E69EFAD0]
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> I’m sitting at level 10 (15 minutes) and execute Go To… Object Name and
> enter “4U605-1592” and click OK.
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> This takes me to an ‘empty’ patch of sky at approx. RA 00:23:29, Dec
> +30:58:43, which sounds totally reasonable for band 605 of the UCAC4 data.
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> But it’s literally ‘empty’ on my display. I right-click on the spot and
> Guide’s best suggestion for identification is “Border” with no
> additional info.
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> So we’re left with the interesting situation where Guide *knows* the
> name and corresponding location, but is not readily displaying anything
> at that spot.
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> In approximately 20 years of Guide/Charon/FindOrb usage, I have never
> come across such an issue before.
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> History: to get to this point, I started with a fresh installation from
> the Guide 9.0 CD and added patches over the years to get to 9.1 now.
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> Roger emailed me the relevant files from his (now working) setup. I’m
> going to trawl through the relevant lines in there and see if there is
> some subtle difference which has so far eluded me.
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> Cheers!
> Grant
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> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 2:15 PM
> To: guide-user@yahoogroups.com <mailto:guide-user@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [guide-user] RE: UCAC4 (again)
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> Hi Grant,
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> The fact that Go To... Object... 4U314-15926 works suggests that you're
> on the right road. (I should remember to suggest trying that. But I didn't,
> and can't, think of a case where you could get Go To to work, but not
> display.)
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> To double-check: under Extras... Toggle User-Added Datasets, you've
> selected UCAC4 (_not_ "UCAC4 downloaded from VizieR"), turned 'on', with
> the 'label' box checked, and 'show at' set from 0 to 1 degree?
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> What happens if you right-click on that star? Do you get UCAC4 data
> or UCAC3 data?
>
> -- Bill
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> On 2016-11-11 20:42, 'Blair, Grant'
> g.blair@...<mailto:g.blair@...
> <mailto:g.blair@...%3cmailto:g.blair@...>> [guide-user] wrote:
>> Thanks, Tom!
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>> Well, this is extremely interesting. Switching the UCAC4 directories
> (and reference) over to C: made no difference, so I set it back to D:.
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>> Still no sign of the UCAC4 stars (or labels) appearing, even at level
> 10 (15 minutes).
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>> HOWEVER:-
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>> If I do a 'Goto...Object' and enter "4U314-15926" as described in
> http://www.projectpluto.com/update9.htm#ucac4_find, then Guide does
> indeed go to the location where that star should appear. It just doesn't
> display it.
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>> Ideas, anyone?
>>
>> Grant
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>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 7:40 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [guide-user] RE: UCAC4 (again)
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>> Good luck Grant. FYI, for me the stars don't ID as 4UCxxx-xxxx until I
>> zoom in to level 10. before that (level 9 or before) they ID as TYCO
>> catalog stars.
>>
>> Tom
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>> On 11/11/2016 7:04 PM, 'Blair, Grant'
> g.blair@...<mailto:g.blair@...
> <mailto:g.blair@...%3cmailto:g.blair@...>> [guide-user] wrote:
>>> Thanks, Tom. Same here, except I'm on D:
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>>> I guess I'll temporarily copy the UCAC4 tree to C: and adjust the
> UCAC4_PATH accordingly to see if it makes a difference.
>>>
>>> Grant
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>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 7:02 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [guide-user] RE: UCAC4 (again)
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>>> In my c:\UCAC4 directory I have a U4B subdirectory containing Z001-Z900
>>> and a U4i subdirectory with a few index files and such. Also a
>>> modfis.exe file (?).
>>>
>>> Tom
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>>> On 11/11/2016 6:56 PM, 'Blair, Grant'
> g.blair@...<mailto:g.blair@...
> <mailto:g.blair@...%3cmailto:g.blair@...>> [guide-user] wrote:
>>>> Thanks, guys. Tried that one, still no dice.
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>>>> Did you both ftp the files from CDSARC? Or did you get them from
> some other source?
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>>>> I'm wondering if the directory structure there is set up a little
> differently from that expected by Guide...
>>>>
>>>> Grant
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>>>> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 5:34 PM
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>>>> Subject: Re: [guide-user] UCAC4 (again)
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>>>> Same here as Dr. Clay...
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> On 11/11/2016 4:16 PM, 'P. Clay Sherrod'
> drclay@...<mailto:drclay@...
> <mailto:drclay@...%3cmailto:drclay@...>> [guide-user]
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You might try changing your path command to:
>>>>> UCAC4_PATH=d:\ucac4
>>>>>
>>>>> Works just fine in that configuration for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------
>>>>> Dr. Clay
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>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 11, 2016 1:50 PM
>>>>> *Subject:* [guide-user] UCAC4 (again)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think I am a particularly inept person in general, but
>>>>> getting Guide 9.1 (10 Dec, 2015 version) to access UCAC4 (locally on
>>>>> the same HD as Guide) eludes me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I downloaded the entire UCAC4 tree from
>>>>> cdsarc.u-strasbg.fr/pub/cat/I/322A/UCAC4 into D:\UCAC4 on my laptop,
>>>>> keeping the relative directory structure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Guide 9.1 installed in D:\AstroData\Guide9
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the following in
>>>>> GUIDE.DAT: UCAC4_DATA=D:\UCAC4
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have UCAC-4 flagged with an asterisk in Extras-Toggle User
>>>>> Datasets and the 'on' radio button is selected, as is display at a
>>>>> scale of 0 - 1 degrees.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I go to an area of the sky with the window displaying 30 arcmin of
>>>>> field and the only stars visible are from Tycho (or PPM or HD).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have UCAC3 disabled, if that makes any difference (it didn't seem
>>>>> to, for me).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is my mistake, please?
>>>>>
>>>>> Grant
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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