Re: [guide-user] RE: Problems with UCAC4 and USNO B1.0

Keith Pascall Sep 12, 2016

Hi Grant,

Yes to both - Extras, toggle users dataset for UCAC-4 was on and tried fields 1 degree and smaller.

Same settings used for URAT1 which works ok.

I have been scratching my head a lot over this.

Kind regards,


On 12/09/2016 20:50, 'Blair, Grant' g.blair@... [guide-user] wrote:

Hi Keith,


I didn’t see you explicitly mention anywhere you toggled the particular UCAC4 user-defined dataset ON – you did, right? Then zoomed into a field of less than one degree?

Kind Regards/Viele Grüße,



From: []
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [guide-user] RE: Problems with UCAC4 and USNO B1.0



Hi Bill,

That is where I got them from; then just transferred a copy to a ucac4 folder inside the Guide. Maybe they got corrupted in the download!

I will try the copy Christoph is sending me first, if that does not work I will download files again using a different ftp program.

Kind regards,


On 12/09/2016 20:27, Bill Gray pluto@... [guide-user] wrote:

Hi Christoph,  Keith,  all,
    The UCAC-4 files are at
    They do add up to about 8 GBytes;  they were initially distributed
on two DVDs.  Or maybe a double-sided DVD.
-- Bill
On 2016-09-12 13:34, christoph held cheld93@... [guide-user] wrote:
Keith, at this moment I compressed the files. Unfortunately my Dropbox is limited to 2.5
GB so I must split the zip and then upload it piece by Piece.
Best I write to you when I´ve uploaded a Piece and then you tell me when you´ve
downloaded it so i can Exchange. Best you write me to:
cheld93 at
*Von:* "Keith Pascall tilehouseobservatory@... [guide-user]"
*Gesendet:* 19:25 Montag, 12.September 2016
*Betreff:* Re: [guide-user] RE: Problems with UCAC4 and USNO B1.0
Hi Christoph,
That would be very kind of you - if you are sure it would not be too much trouble -
there are a lot of files, something like 8Gb!
Please feel free to reply direct to my email address
<mailto:tilehouseobservatory@...>  if you wish, to keep any detail more
Kind regards,
On 12/09/2016 18:04, christoph held cheld93@... <mailto:cheld93@...>
[guide-user] wrote:
Hi Keith,
sorry for the bad links. Two weeks in advance it works.
If you are interested i can upload my UCAC Files in my Drobbox.
*Von:* "Keith Pascall tilehouseobservatory@...
<mailto:tilehouseobservatory@...> [guide-user]"
<> <>
*An:* <>
*Gesendet:* 18:58 Montag, 12.September 2016
*Betreff:* Re: [guide-user] RE: Problems with UCAC4 and USNO B1.0
Hi Dr. Clay and Christoph,
Have tried full path  UCAC4_PATH=C:\Program Files (x86)\GUIDE91\ucac4  but it makes no
difference. The URAT1 files are in the same place and work with the short path.
Unfortunately the web pages you quote either gives a blank page or 'page can not be
found' error depending on browser used. It looks like the files have been removed but
I do begin to suspect something is wrong with the files I downloaded.
Thank you for your suggestions, I will try and find another source to download from.
Kind regards,
On 12/09/2016 17:36, christoph held cheld93@... <mailto:cheld93@...>
[guide-user] wrote:
Hi Keith!
I´ve had the same problems with the downloaded data from CDS.
The files should be faulty. Then I´ve downloaded from this source:
Now it works.
Kind regards
*Von:* "'P. Clay Sherrod' drclay@... <mailto:drclay@...>
[guide-user]" <> <>
*An:* <>
*Gesendet:* 18:10 Montag, 12.September 2016
*Betreff:* Re: [guide-user] RE: Problems with UCAC4 and USNO B1.0

It appears that your path route is not complete:
It needs to be directed to the complete drive that your GUIDE folder (in which your
UCAC-4 resides)....such as
For example.
Dr. Clay
Arkansas Sky Observatories
WEB: <>
ASO Petit Jean Mountain /MPC H41
ASO Petit Jean Mountain South /MPC H45
ASO West Conway /MPC H43
.......serving astronomy since 1971
    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Keith Pascall tilehouseobservatory@... [guide-user]
    *To:* <>
    *Sent:* Monday, September 12, 2016 10:58 AM
    *Subject:* Re: [guide-user] RE: Problems with UCAC4 and USNO B1.0
    Hi Grant,
    Basically not having use this method before and some research on the internet.
    I have, however, downloaded a program called Tixati (which looked fairly simple
    to use) and tried it briefly. This method seems to be the only way to get a copy
    of usno-B1.0 which is all I want to use it for.
    I have left off trying that at the moment because I can not get the downloaded
    ucac4 files to display in Guide 9.1
    I downloaded ucac4 via ftp from site
    Files z001 to z900 (exactly as downloaded) were placed in a directory 'ucac4'
    inside Guide 9.1 (10 Dec 2015 version).
    File ucac4.tdf (from recent group email) added to Guide 9.1
    Added new line to guide.dat   UCAC4_PATH=ucac4
    Extras - Toggle user datasets shows UCAC-4 is 'on' and 'Show at' reads '0  1.5'
    Label is ticked.
    No UCA4 stars show up at any level of display or can be found with a search.
    URAT1 is set up in exactly the same way and works ok.
    Can anybody suggest what I might have done wrong or missed?
    Do I need to process the downloaded files in any way?, I can find no instruction
    to do so.
    On 12/09/2016 13:29, 'Blair, Grant' g.blair@... <mailto:g.blair@...>
    [guide-user] wrote:
    Why would you consider the use of BitTorrent to be ‘a bit risky without use of a
    VPN’?  Unless you plan on doing something on (or beyond) the margins of legality
    (software or media piracy), torrents are an excellent way to distribute large
    files or datasets, sharing the load over many, many clients with available
    *From:* <>
    *Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:55 AM
    *To:* <>
    *Subject:* Re: [guide-user] Problems with UCAC4 and USNO B1.0
    Hi Christoph,
    Thank you for the info and apologies for not getting you name correct in my
    previous email.
    I have never used the 'Bittorrent' system for downloading and have read that it
    is a bit risky without having a VPN set up also.
    Did you use a VPN for your download?
    Kind regards,
    On 11/09/2016 12:53, christoph held cheld93@... <mailto:cheld93@...>
    [guide-user] wrote:
        Hi Keith,
        take this:
        Kind regards,
        *Von:*"Keith Pascall tilehouseobservatory@...
        <mailto:tilehouseobservatory@...> [guide-user]"
        <> <>
        *An:* <>
        *Gesendet:* 13:45 Sonntag, 11.September 2016
        *Betreff:* Re: [guide-user] Problems with UCAC4 and USNO B1.0
        Hi Christopher,
        I have been looking to download the USNO B1.0 catalogue but can not find a
        site where it is available'.
        Are you able to disclose from where you downloaded a copy?
        Kind regards,
        On 03/09/2016 09:41, christoph held cheld93@...
        <mailto:cheld93@...> [guide-user] wrote:
            Dear Bill!
            Thanks for your help. That works great. And sorry for double posting.
            kind regards
            *Von:*"Bill Gray pluto@... <mailto:pluto@...>
            [guide-user]" <>
            *An:* <>
            *Gesendet:* 20:11 Montag, 29.August 2016
            *Betreff:* Re: [guide-user] Problems with UCAC4 and USNO B1.0
            Hi Christop,
            My apologies; you've been led astray by some documentation that I need
            to update.
            If you get these two files :
            and put them in your Guide folder, you'll see "UCAC-4" and "USNO B1.0
            from hard drive" in your Extras... Toggle User Dataset lists.
            Those files were provided as part of the Guide 8 update file, and
            they're present on the Guide 9 and 9.1 DVDs. But they are _not_
            automatically installed from the Guide 9.x disk.
            Incidentally, a note to first-time posters on this list: it may take
            a little while before your first post is approved. After that, you won't
            be moderated, and your posts will appear almost instantly. This list used
            to be completely unmoderated, but that resulted in spam.
            -- Bill
            On 2016-08-29 08:02, christoph held cheld93@...
            <mailto:cheld93@...> [guide-user] wrote:
            > Hallo to you all!
            > I´ve a problem with displaying the UCAC4 and USNO B1.0 Stars. I have
            downloaded both
            > Catalogue. The UCAC4 folder contains the z001 to z900 files and the
            B1.0 folder
            > b0000.acc to b1799.acc files and the same as .cat. I´ve also set the
            path to the folders
            > in the way describte on the projectpluto page:
            > but nothings happened!
            > There is no new entry in the toggle user datasets.
            > What I make wrong? Please help me.
            > Thank you
            > Christoph
Posted by: Bill Gray <pluto@...>
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